030 John Wayne Gacy The Killer Clown

Does John Wayne Gacy Haunt this Earth?

John Wayne Gacy mug shot

Does John Wayne Gacy still haunt this earth? In Ghostly’s thirtieth episode, Pat and Rebecca explore the life, death, and possible afterlife of serial killer (and clown!) John Wayne Gacy. They were joined in this live episode by Nick Mataragas, the last man to have played Gacy on the TV show Ghost Adventures. Special thanks to Lawlor’s on Archer for hosting Ghostly and The Southside Podfest and thank you to Memoriam Development for organizing such a great festival!

Nick Mataragas as John Wayne Gacy dressed as Pogo the clown
Nick Mataragas as John Wayne Gacy dressed as Pogo the clown

Questions Explored in the Episode

Who was John Wayne Gacy? What were his crimes? What was his childhood like? How did he become a clown? What happened in his personal and professional life, and how did that fit with his criminal life? How did the police catch him? Did he confess? Who were people that talked to him in jail? How did he die? What happened after his death? Where is his brain? Does his spirit still haunt this earth?


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Listener Mail and Questions

This episode we took questions and stories LIVE while recording our episode. Hear several spooky stories about Lawlor’s, the very bar where we did the recording. Have a story or question of your own (or someone you know)? Send your story or question to info@ghostlypodcast.com and we might read it on the podcast. You can also email us individually at pat@ghostlypodcast.com or rebecca@ghostlypodcast.com. You could be on a future episode of Ghostly!

History of Gacy

Listen to Pat give John Gacy’s history. We learn about his childhood and upbringing as well as some horrific things that happened to Gacy and how he got his start doing horrific things himself. Pat also covers how he stalked and murdered his victims, and then explains how he was finally caught.

Debate on Gacy’s Ghost

Time for the debate! Rebecca tells several stories of researchers who met with Gacy before his execution and who claim to be haunted by him after his death. Nick Mataragas tells us what it was like to dress up as Pogo, one of Gacy’s clown alter-egos, and how it was on the set of Ghost Adventures at Old Joliet Prison. Then Nick joins Pat on #teamskeptic to debate Rebecca and most of the bar on #teambeliever. Who do you believe?

Time to Vote!

Now is the time to vote on this episode! Vote on if John Wayne Gacy still haunts this earth using the poll on our Facebook page.  Just search for Ghostly Podcast on Facebook and be sure to Like us so you don’t miss anything!

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Sources for this Episode

Special Thanks to Lawlor’s on Archer for giving us a great place to do a Live show!
Thank you to Memoriam Development for putting on the Southside Podfest!
Thanks to special guest Nick Mataragas and all those who asked questions and told great stories.
And, of course, thank you to all the fans who showed up to the recording

https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/ghost-adventures/episodes/serial-killer-spirits-john-gacy-prison https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/theconfessionals/episode-116

Music for this episode was performed by Michael Rivers
Intro: “III. Allegro moderato from Gargoyles” by Lowell Liebermann
Outro: “Dream Images (Love-Death Music)” by George Crumb
Bumper: “Ghost Waltz” by Lowell Liebermann